Curse

Eclair · Jun 04, 2005, 09:38 AM // 09:38

Okay, I'm not sure why I chose ranger as my secondary, but I did and now I'm at the Desert. So far, I really haven't found any use for my ranger skills, besides keeping a pet mostly for kicks.

Expertise line is pretty much out, and beast mastery is definately out. That leaves marksmanship and wilderness survival line. However, most marksmanship skills dont' work that well without expertise, so I'm pretty much at a loss here as to what to do with my ranger secondary =/

m0gh · Jun 04, 2005, 06:51 PM // 18:51

Well..

I find ranger very good as secondary profession... I use dryders defence and storm chaser from ranger side.. dont use pets!!

Healing Seed (Healing Prayers)
If target ally takes damage in the next 8 seconds, that ally and all adjacent allies gain 3 health.
Energy:15 Cast Time:2 Recharge:25

Orison of Healing (Healing Prayers)
Heal target ally for 20.

Energy:5 Cast Time:1 Recharge:2

Word of Healing [Elite] (Healing Prayers)
Heal target other ally for 16. Heal for an additional 15 if that ally is below 50% health.
Energy:5 Cast Time:0,75 Recharge:4

Healing Breeze (Healing Prayers)
For the next 10 seconds, target ally regenerates 2 health regeneration each second.
Energy:10 Cast Time:1 Recharge:2

Signet of Devotion (Divine Favor)
Heal target ally for 14 health.
Energy:0 Cast Time:2 Recharge:5

Storm Chaser (Wilderness Survival)
For 8 seconds, you move 25% faster, and you gain 1 energy whenever you take elemental damage.
Energy:10 Cast Time:0 Recharge:30

Dryder's Defenses (Wilderness Survival)
For 5 seconds, you gain 75% chance to evade attacks and 34 armor against elemental damage
Energy:5 Cast Time:0 Recharge:60

Resurrect (Monk None)
Resurrect target party member.
Energy:10 Cast Time:8 Recharge:0

^I dont know how good this is, but it works atleast

( PVP )

greetings.. (Rofl i registered on this forum just to reply in this thread)

Minwanabi · Jun 04, 2005, 06:58 PM // 18:58

First, you should post attributes for your build, because those are at least as important as the skills, and next, that's not a particularly good PvP build. First, that ressurrect will get interrupted every single time you cast it. 8 seconds is an eternity on the battlefield, an eternity you're standing there, not healing, and announcing to everyone around you that you're rezzing. That's asking for a powerful interrupt, probably one that'll steal more energy. IF, and this is a big IF, you have a monk packing a rez, it should be rez sig. Next, stormchaser isn't very helpful, especially considering the rest of your skills. If you have seed, and plan to use it, you probably won't want to move around very much from the seeded target, since it's a PbAoE heal. Next, they're going to snare you, or knock-lock you if you're the focused target. Dryder's is a pretty terrible skill. First, it requires that you invest in wilderness, which has no skills worth it on a mo/r, and a 60s recharge is laughable. Yeah, so you're the focused target. You active it, one of two things happens. You're spiked to death by an air ele or two, the warrior's activate warrior's cunning, or they switch targets to kill another monk, and then move back to you while you're waiting for it to recharge.

Now, that's not to say a mo/r is bad, in fact, we used to run two of them in our Tombs build, but they had 7 monk skills, and one ranger skill, the only one that can be useful, really, a spirit. We didn't have to push attributes high, because with two mo/r, they would just alternate the fertiles. It was just another HP buffer, which we reserved for KotH maps exclusively.

Eclair · Jun 04, 2005, 07:48 PM // 19:48

Thanks for the help =/

I guess ranger is mostly used for that last utility spot huh?

Minwanabi · Jun 04, 2005, 09:27 PM // 21:27

yes, it is. same for many subs on a monk. Mo/w and watch yourself, mo/n and OoB, all examples.

Kebren · Jun 04, 2005, 11:41 PM // 23:41

I gotta agree with Minwanabi, theres very few Mo/R combos that don't revolve around using spirits. Fertile Seasons for a standard hp buff and Symbiosis for a enchantment heavy build.

Aranador · Jun 05, 2005, 10:30 AM // 10:30

I have monk ranger

I have used troll blood for low cost self healing when I feel I can spare 3 seconds - but - mostly I dont use any ranger skill.

Oh - in the low arena - troll blood + healing breeze = unkillable

higher arena though and it just slows things down (add shielding hands

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Minwanabi · Jun 05, 2005, 07:25 PM // 19:25

Ugh. Troll unguent is garbage. I mean, people tout is an emergency heal, and when do you have 3 seconds to cast an emergency heal? In organized PvP, a monk will die in less than 3 seconds, not to mention the tiny regen that gives will maybe prolong his life for a half a second longer.